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Kay and I already pointed it out in 2 threads, but, just so it's seen, most of the embed/edit functions are broken and 'undefined'. This is what happens:

[undefined=undefined][/undefined]
 

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Which functions in particular are you talking about and is this something which has previously worked and is now broken, or has it always been a problem?

I haven't noticed any issues with anything of this nature but I'll look into it at some point this week. I little more info would be appreciated though.
 

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Sorry about the OP, wrote it while I was going out yesterday.

Things like the YouTube embed, italic, bold, underline, align text, the whole bunch in the editing window.

Would be sweet if you could look into it.
 

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Testy de test

Hmm well it appears to work just fine for me, unless I'm misunderstanding the issue. All of the tags seem to work in fact, including youtube.

The only changes we've ever made even remotely connected to this area is adding a few new tags for spoilers and other similar features the board lacked by default, but that was done right when the site was first starting out so they definitely aren't causing any issues. I had a quick look through some settings and I can't find anything which would cause this problem.

All I can think of is it being some form of client side issue with your browser. Perhaps you should try the site in another browser or clear out your cache.
 

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Tonberry said:
Testy de test

Hmm well it appears to work just fine for me, unless I'm misunderstanding the issue. All of the tags seem to work in fact, including youtube.

The only changes we've ever made even remotely connected to this area is adding a few new tags for spoilers and other similar features the board lacked by default, but that was done right when the site was first starting out so they definitely aren't causing any issues. I had a quick look through some settings and I can't find anything which would cause this problem.

All I can think of is it being some form of client side issue with your browser. Perhaps you should try the site in another browser or clear out your cache.
Hmm, strange, you're right, on Chrome it works without a problem.

Maybe it's Firefox related, since Kay had it too.

Sorry & thanks. :p
 

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But.... I don't want to use Chrome... I like Firefox.
 

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Time to move to the much superior IE then!

FF has been lackin and Chrome... just no!
 

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Chrome is superior! When exactly did you notice issues with it? Only thing I've really changed recently is adding the nsfw stuff. I'll try and fix this when I get a little more time because as much as I love chrome I know how annoying it is to be forced to use something other than your preferred browser :D
 

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Well I can guarantee without even testing that it works as it should in everything, except Firefox which I have never tested because Firefox stopped being good years ago. I'm sure it has a few hiccups in IE (what doesn't :p) but I imagine it still runs better than in Firefox.

I used to hate Chrome too people, but if you aren't using Opera then you should be using Chrome. It's quicker, far more simplistic and I've never had a single problem or crash with it. A quick install, grab a few essential addons like adblock and there really is no better alternative. The interface grows on you. Firefox on the other hand I would never recommend to anyone unless a site specifically required a Firefox plugin. Hell, on my laptop right clicking doesn't work in Firefox, period.

Anyway if it's not working in FF then its either a problem with Firefox itself (And coming from a web dev student I'd say this is most likely) or its something which is unsupported by MyBB. I highly doubt anything has suddenly broken on our end. The last time our version of MyBB was updated would've been a few months ago at the very least if I'm not mistaken, so if it's taken this long for people to notice issues then it's even less likely to be an issue with MyBB.

All I can say is grab either Chrome, Opera or Safari. All are better than Firefox, even Safari which just shows how bad Firefox is these days. :p If you haven't used Opera before I'd recommend you give it a go, its definitely my favorite of the bunch.


Old stats now but still, shows Firefox has never been on top of things :p

BROWSER RANT / ADVERTISEMENT OVER xD​
 

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I like the way FF feels way more compared to other browsers, especially when it comes to burkmarks. I don't mind Chrome, but couldn't use it as a main browser.

P.S. Damn that bench is old, FF 3 ? :D

IE still is on top obviously, I mean lurk at it, it has a higher score!!1
 

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Bah, Chrome doesn't even have a favorites/bookmarks left side panel like Firefox (which is ONE of the main reasons why I use Firefox daily, everywhere I go) so it's a no go for me, I only have Chrome as a backup when Firefox decides to be a biatch as it likes to be, especially since Mozilla became all hipster on the whole "we need as many updates as we can deliver, even if they suck, to bring the version number up like Chrome otherwise the retarded internet users will think that we're behind Chrome!!!11".

But since, despite the super annoying problems with Firefox such as Flash crashing every few days for no reason at all on Youtube and the eternal slowdowns, I still use Firefox as my main browser, I shall protest against y'all Chrome users by not using bold/underline/italic and the like until it's fixed, screw y'all sickos and let me use my shitty Firefox in peace goddamnit!


Also, what's IE, it sounds stupid and I've never heard of it, it sounds like something Microsoft would make tbh. (Microsoft can do what the hell they want with their new IE, but with Windows 8 coming soon, they'll have a lot of explaining to do to PC users, wait, unless the new generation of PC users are complete morons and just won't see the difference with their new super expensive shiny tablet, oh right, those people).


(don't hate on Firefox :(, yeah it's been on a bumpy road for a while because the Mozilla devs suddenly became stupid but I still have hope that they'll make it like before, what, hope is the main human drive right, right?)
 

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Well, personally, I'm going to upgrade to Win8 since it's actually faster than Win7 and is overall the same system with just more. Drivers weren't really around for most of the Benchmarks, so those 'scores' will be boosted in time anyway. Couldn't care less about it including Metro or not for PC, I just won't be using it. I really read more positive stuff from people who had it for a while now than negative, people who weren't the random guy off the street who is hung up on 'AMAGAD WERE START BUTON!?'.

Plus I just took the plunge in the SSD world at last and ordered a 128GB Samsung 830, so it'll be speedy fun times ahead, paired with Win8.
 

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Timbab said:
P.S. Damn that bench is old, FF 3 ? :D
Ironically v3 was probably the last GOOD version, then they started giving the versions a +1 every weekend and saying it was better.

@ Kay if bookmarks bother you that much then just switch to Opera already. :p To be fair there's probably a bunch of extensions for chrome which will fill in the stuff you're used to.
 

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OK, so I checked this out, downloaded Firefox (which now seems to be a clone of Internet Crapsplorer) and discovered that whilst typing in the code yourself would work, pressing the formatting option on the top presented the undefined problem.

So I researched the problem and found this:
Due to a change in Firefox 16.1, when using the editor to insert MyCode you might encounter an issue where the tags are shown as [undefined=undefined]/undefined.
Apparently this has been fixed in the as yet unreleased update to MyBB but they've released a patch in the mean time, so I've applied it and tested on FF and it appears to be working fine now :)

Thanks for making me aware of it, please let me know if you keep experiencing this problem :)
 

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Good job Mozilla, making great open source products put out patches just for you, as if making stuff IE friendly wasn't enough of a pain for web developers.

Their desperate attempts to try and keep up with Chrome makes me facepalm. Almost as much as seeing IE adverts on TV, those always make me laugh and sigh. :p



Those of you still using Firefox:


Reluctancy to accept change never helped anyone!
 

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@Davin,

Thanks! <3 Works perfectly.

@Ton,

GTFO! :D

Tried both as main browser, it just doesn't have the same 'good' feel, even tried Safari. It's not about change, it's just doesn't feel as good to me, at least not as my main browser, I use Chrome a lot as a backup.

Gonna give Opera another shot though... why not.
 

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Tried Opera for a bit and it just isn't the same as FF, perhaps it's because I've been with FF for years now so that I feel at home, i don't know, but it's more 'fluent'. With my current setup it's pretty fast too, so it really doesn't bother me. The 'flash freeze' fix is simple, you just need to do this:

go to:C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash

Open the 'mms.cfg file and add "ProtectedMode = 0" at the end of the file.

Then it's smooth like buttah.





I'm also on Windows 8 now. I don't really get all the hate. I mean yes, it's not really a huge jump forward and the start menu is missing, but after a while you get used to it and it's sort of better even, as long as you setup your Metro menu correctly.

But I also added Start8 which makes it like Windows 7 (but faster) with the extra Metro screen which can be convenient if you get used to the key commands. I guess it really depends on Windows 9 to see which direction they're REALLY taking, in terms of closed App ecosystem vs traditional Windows 'sandbox'. Right now, in reality, Metro is something you visit a couple minutes a day and even that is pushing it if you got Start8. App's aren't really relevant if you use the desktop so it's kind of 'wasted'. Overall it's a better 'start menu' though, more space and better customized (Plus email updates, and all kinda of different informations, hoping for a gmail app soon), I'm only sad that they didn't offer more options for the PC version when it comes to Metro, otherwise, as I've said, it's pretty much a faster Windows 7.

Downgrade? Nope. Huge improvement? Not really, but the speed boost IS there. The way memory gets handled is different, etc.

Metro kind of grew on me and I adore the look on phones/tablets.

But I do realize and accept the fact that Windows 8 is focused on touch and tablets really. It's not REALLY a desktop interface, it should be better but it isn't. But overall, I'm sort of happy with it, especially considering the price (I bought it for 15 bucks). It's no Vista, since it's better than Windows 7, it's faster. I just hope Windows 9 will be more advanced and true to Desktops rather than more of Windows 8, in terms of closed App systems. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I do see why Valve doesn't like it in terms of the App system (Since it's a set backwards, ala Apple, but makes sense as a mobile platform), but really, for PC use, the Metro UI is nothing more than a Start menu and even then, the traditional Start menu can be added for free with third part software (EVEN THOUGH IT SHOULD BE AN OPTIONS FROM MICROSOFT).

Bottom line, they should have done WAY more to please the PC crowd, Windows 8 is a sorry excuse for serious advancement in terms of Desktop use, I realize all the flaws that it has, but it's stupid to get hung up on Metro (Like most reviewers do, it's facepalm worthy to read), it's really minimal when you primarily use the Desktop, actually, it's nearly and can be completely irrelevant.

It should be viewed as a tablet OS primarily, but there is no reason not to upgrade for the price since IT IS faster than Win7. In the end and it's relatively easy to make it fully feel like Win7 (just faster) with a third party start menu of your choosing (That shell one is free, there are also other free alternatives, but I got Start8 because it looks the best).

Curious to see how much the App market for Win8 will develop, not just for PC, but for tablets and the Smartphone version. I'm guessing the next Xbox will also run Metro, or a version of it, where it's all connected, you can maybe even play Xbox games on PC then, but we'll see. I'll probably get a Win8 phone when I move and probably a tablet down the road, then the ecosystem will fully make sense, I just hope it will actually advance and not stay like this. I hope they try to do more innovation down the road.


P.S. Holy shit, SSD ftw. Can't believe I waited so long to upgrade. Bye bye 74GB Raptor <3.
 

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I personally don't see people's problem with Windows 8 and frankly it's hilarious how some people even at this point still refuse to upgrade from XP to W7. In my opinion W8 is well worth the upgrade, the extra speed is great and as for metro etc I have absolutely no problem with it. You aren't forced to use any of these "touch" focused features which are intended to make windows devices more uniform.

I also quite like the look of the phones and would have considered getting one if the OS wasn't so new and lacking huge features. All in all Windows 8 has a big visual difference yes, but this is something which comes with most updates. People get used to it and once you've done that its just the same but faster, no problem.

I really don't think the "desktop" features could be improved much further from what we're used to. And in W8, at least as far as I'm aware, there isn't anything missing that we're used to having, things are just laid out differently. It uniforms the two major windows products and I think it's about time they gave the two platforms a consistent and modern looking feel. The people who refuse to just accept change are the ones losing out. You haven't lost anything. Once you get used to the change you only gain.

I myself haven't got W8 yet but judging by the beta I had no issues with it. I probably won't be using the metro side of things on say my laptop, since this is where I have all my software and do most of my work. But on my powerful system which is primarily for gaming with very few other programs installed aside from essentials, I can see metro being something I would use. Mainly because it's nice visually speaking, clean, and if you don't have dozens of icons needed on screen there's really no reason not to use it.

Since my flash drive is pretty small I usually only have 3 main games installed excluding steam stuff on my other drive. So those games and other essentials like browsers etc are all I really need on screen. If you have a similar situation then metro is definitely a nice clean option. If you need a more desktop based focus like I do on my laptop, then ignore metro, simple as that. :)

And damn, 15 bucks is a good deal. The prices I last saw were pretty expensive if you compare to say... OS X.
 

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You got a point with the "Desktop" running out of room for improvement. I agree that it's smart that they just combined all services and as I said will probably throw the new Xbox (Hopefully next year) into the mix, then it's one solid ecosystem across the board.

I find it ridiculous that people say features got removed, because they haven't, not to my knowledge at least, lol. I've been reading some STRANGE stuff on numerous boards from people that jumped on the hate wagon.

One of the main things I wish Metro would have is more customization, a lot of the Metro settings are pretty limited. I still gotta setup my Start menu nicely, haven't gotten around to it.

In terms of WinPhone8, I just can't accept iOS anymore, it looks so outdated plus I never really got into the whole 'closed app' system it had, I guess the same can be applied to Android. Which is why I like WP8, all the info is pretty 'open' in the apps and it feels more like a 'free' feeling compared to separate apps, even though it's a bit of an illusion. Just hope more developers will develop for it.

But, I know right, 15 bucks, there was no reason not to buy it. :p

All you need to do is go to windowsupgradeoffer.com, provide some made up info and put in a legit Win7 key, then you'll get a coupon which you can then use to buy the upgrade for 14.99 (Down from 39.99). Coupon can be applied to any purchase, they're not linked to emails. The upgrade can be installed on any Windows and I think there is even a trick to 'unlock' it, but either way, it's pretty easy to do a clean double installation (Valid or not).
 

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I completely agree regarding Windows 8. Every time a new OS is released there are a ton of mindless haters who just follow the swarm. It takes a few days to get used to the change and that's the only issue as far as I'm concerned.

Windows Phone however is in no way measuring up to Android. Of course iOS doesn't either but in terms of phones anyone with any geek side to them will know android is the only real option when comparing to the other two.

If Windows Phone kicks off big then perhaps at some point its marketplace will match the scale of android's, but I can't see the OS itself ever catching up.

The one advantage Windows Phone has right now is it looks the sleekest of the 3. But have they done anything with the black bar down the right side of the main screen? It always looked like that was a feature which hadn't been fully implemented and was just wasting space. That aspect alone made me cringe and judging by a uni friend of mine's phone, they've yet to give that blank space any purpose. It completely negates having a nice "large" screen so I hope they've got plans for it if they haven't done something already.
 
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