vehicle speed

[duffstone]

Anyone know where this is handled?  for instance, how does the client and core know that a speederbike is faster than the swoop?   sounds like it has to be a .tre thing, but I'm not finding it yet.

-Duff

 

[Arioch]

I never found that one myslf. Looked quite a while for it.

 

[Timbab]

MMOCoreORB/bin/scripts/object/mobile/vehicle/objects.lua suggests it's read from the object files.

Might be wrong though, best to ask Lasko/Miztah or someone with experience.

 

[duffstone]

Nice! I was looking at the wrong set of IFF's... Now it's time to make a super swoop, and if I can do that, then it's time to replace the model with something more sexy... thanks Tim!

 

[duffstone]

well, you can change it, and it works, but you get so much rubberbanding that it's insane. plus some settings just don't work at all and the speeder won't move. Still getting a feel for it, but I think I can get it. Not sure why it's rubberbanding yet tho. I can /setspeed 100 with an admin and run lights out without a single rubber band, so the server isn't the issue.

anyway... that's all I can report for tonight, I'll let you guys know if I figure it all out and what everything means. -Duff

 

[jowwarr]

The server probably thinks it's some kind of speed hack. I remember serious rubberbanding on Valcyn when my connection started lagging from the west coast of Australia. Once the connection picked up, the rubberbanding stopped.

 

[duffstone]

possible, but doubtful. I can set my admin char to "/setspeed 100" and zoom across the planet in seconds with zero rubber banding. but if I increase the speed on a speeder by +1 to an integer, I get rubber banding so bad I can't get anywhere. Increase the speed by +2 and the speeder doesn't move at all.

I wish there was a quicker way of testing, a way to reload .tre data or something. makes trial and error testing a pain. Not bitching, just wishing.

-Duff

 

[Arioch]

possible, but doubtful.  I can set my admin char to "/setspeed 100" and zoom across the planet in seconds with zero rubber banding.  but if I increase the speed on a speeder by +1 to an integer, I get rubber banding so bad I can't get anywhere.   Increase the speed by +2 and the speeder doesn't move at all.  

I wish there was a quicker way of testing,  a way to reload .tre data or something.  makes trial and error testing a pain. Not bitching, just wishing.

-Duff

Just put the folder and files in the game install folder youre using they will over ride the tres

 

[Halyn]

possible, but doubtful.  I can set my admin char to "/setspeed 100" and zoom across the planet in seconds with zero rubber banding.  but if I increase the speed on a speeder by +1 to an integer, I get rubber banding so bad I can't get anywhere.   Increase the speed by +2 and the speeder doesn't move at all.  

I wish there was a quicker way of testing,  a way to reload .tre data or something.  makes trial and error testing a pain. Not bitching, just wishing.

-Duff

When you're modding your speeder velocities, are you also adding that file back up to your server? If you're only working client side, the server likely is detecting it as a speed hack.

 

[Arioch]

Which file is this that affects the speed?

 

[Timbab]

If it actually is reading the object files, then it's object/mobile/vehicle/shared_speederbike_swoop.iff for example.

 

[oostos]

Hey Duff, I have found if you are on your admin account have your /setSpeed set to anything but normal speed, when you get on a vehicle you will rubber band like crazy. It may not be your issue, but it was for me.

 

[Anach]

possible, but doubtful.  I can set my admin char to "/setspeed 100" and zoom across the planet in seconds with zero rubber banding.  but if I increase the speed on a speeder by +1 to an integer, I get rubber banding so bad I can't get anywhere.   Increase the speed by +2 and the speeder doesn't move at all.  

I wish there was a quicker way of testing,  a way to reload .tre data or something.  makes trial and error testing a pain. Not bitching, just wishing.

-Duff

When you're modding your speeder velocities, are you also adding that file back up to your server? If you're only working client side, the server likely is detecting it as a speed hack.

Exactly. Using admin commands is expected by the server, but when a client speed doesnt match the server's expectation, you will encounter issues.

 

[duffstone]

yeah, the .tre data was getting back to the server just fine. right now I'm cleaning up some scripting, re-enabling some draft_schems, etc.. trying to clean up my project and get it ready to publish. I'll start looking into the speeder speeds again soon tho. it's my next major project since I want to inject a new speeder into the game.

-Duff

 

[duffstone]

Ok, I got back this and it works fine. the secret is that you have to delete an existing speeder, and regenerate it with the new settings. kind of a pain on a production server, but on a test / single play it's not bad. I now have my barc speeding along at 27,19 speed.

couple items learned. the two numbers have to be increased together by the same amount. I have no idea what they do, but if I only increase on of them, core3 won't start. I also used the below template in the iff editor to make them easier to use

string[category]
byte
byte
byte
byte
byte
byte
float[num1]
byte
byte
float[num2]

 

[oostos]

Hey Duff, I looked in the object/mobile/vehicle/shared_speederbike_swoop.iff (for example) but I am not seeing any numbers to change for speed. Anyone have any more info on this?

 

[textony]

Ok,  I got back this and it works fine.  the secret is that you have to delete an existing speeder, and regenerate it with the new settings.  kind of a pain on a production server, but on a test / single play it's not bad.  I now have my barc speeding along at 27,19 speed.  

couple items learned.  the two numbers have to be increased together by the same amount.  I have no idea what they do, but if I only increase on of them, core3 won't start.  I also used the below template in the iff editor to make them easier to use

string[category]
byte
byte
byte
byte
byte
byte
float[num1]
byte
byte
float[num2]

I'm doing this at the server level, however it's not changing anything when I spawn a new vehicle. I've updated all speeds and did a build on the server. Started it up and all of my changes so far are working except the speeds.
I'm very new to this so I'm likely missing something obvious. Any ideas?
-T

 

[gyrantol]

I'm doing this at the server level, however it's not changing anything when I spawn a new vehicle. I've updated all speeds and did a build on the server. Started it up and all of my changes so far are working except the speeds.
I'm very new to this so I'm likely missing something obvious. Any ideas?
-T

You need to load duffstones template into SIE and modify the .iff file for the speeder. Once you have done that repackage back into a tre file and make sure it is loaded on both the server side and client side otherwise you will get issues like the vehicle just rubberbanding back and forth.

see screenshot attached...

 

[textony]

I'm doing this at the server level, however it's not changing anything when I spawn a new vehicle. I've updated all speeds and did a build on the server. Started it up and all of my changes so far are working except the speeds.
I'm very new to this so I'm likely missing something obvious. Any ideas?
-T

You need to load duffstones template into SIE and modify the .iff file for the speeder. Once you have done that repackage back into a tre file and make sure it is loaded on both the server side and client side otherwise you will get issues like the vehicle just rubberbanding back and forth.

see screenshot attached...

Thanks so much! I'm on day 2 of trying to mod this stuff. So I'm using the guides. Just using them poorly while I learn.

 

[textony]

I'm doing this at the server level, however it's not changing anything when I spawn a new vehicle. I've updated all speeds and did a build on the server. Started it up and all of my changes so far are working except the speeds.
I'm very new to this so I'm likely missing something obvious. Any ideas?
-T

You need to load duffstones template into SIE and modify the .iff file for the speeder. Once you have done that repackage back into a tre file and make sure it is loaded on both the server side and client side otherwise you will get issues like the vehicle just rubberbanding back and forth.

see screenshot attached...

Gyrantol, I appreciate your help so far. 
I did the update to the AV21 as I'm not trying to add anything new yet.
Made sure I updated both values the same amount as mentioned above, and repacked the tre with the updated iff into "vehicle01.tre"
The server wont start once I update the conf.lua to include the new tre. Is there a way to troubleshoot this?
When I start the server it just quits with an exit code of 1 and I can't scroll back up to see what happened.

--------------------------------Update-----------------------------
Syntax got me. Forgot the comma after the tre. *facepalm*
Thanks again!